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yesstiles, on , said:

Where can I find the State Meet results that show the exact finish times, instead of the rounded-up times? They are available each year, but I can't seen to locate them this year.

-thanks


They're on the combined results:

boys - http://www.rtspt.com.../combined_b.htm
girls - http://www.rtspt.com.../combined_g.htm
yesstiles
Where can I find the State Meet results that show the exact finish times, instead of the rounded-up times? They are available each year, but I can't seen to locate them this year.

-thanks
Greg Beal
Doesn't make much sense, but the third Trabuco girl wasn't included in my merge, so the incorrect score I posted was due to scoring only six of their girls. Significant difference.

Here's a new merge for 20 teams, with the ties scored equally:

Great Oak 100
Simi Valley 201
Trabuco Hills 207
Davis Sr. 208
Saugus 215
Capistrano Valley 219
Clovis North 258
Buchanan 262
San Clemente 268
Redondo Union 276
La Costa Canyon 284
Mira Costa 285
Serrano 286
St. Francis 291
Yucaipa 291
Campolindo 317
Northwood 321
Vista Murrieta 338
Arroyo Grande 343
Bella Vista 366
Scott Joerger
Here is what I get for a top 20 team merge:

Girls
1 Great Oak 103
2 Simi Valley 203
3 Davis Sr. 211
4 Trabuco Hills 211
5 Saugus 216
6 Capistrano Valley 220
7 Clovis North 260
8 Buchanan 268
9 San Clemente 273
10 Redondo Union 276
11 La Costa Canyon 286
12 Serrano 286
13 Mira Costa 288
14 St. Francis (sac) 291
15 Yucaipa 298
16 Campolindo 317
17 Northwood 319
18 Vista Murrieta 343
19 Arroyo Grande 347
20 Bella Vista 367

Boys
1 Arcadia 79
2 Madera South 122
3 Dana Hills 185
4 Warren 199
5 Jurupa Hills 204
6 Saugus 212
7 Brea Olinda 222
8 Loyola 226
9 Westlake 256
10 Canyon/anaheim 282
11 Dos Pueblos 288
12 Bellarmine 289
13 Palos Verdes 291
14 Redondo Union 305
15 De La Salle 310
16 Clovis North 320
17 Davis Sr. 328
18 El Toro 348
19 Jesuit 369
20 Tesoro 370

I assume the differences are due to ties in runner scores. I'm letting the computer randomly pick the winner. Both merges look very close between the 4 and 5 spots.
Maryann
Thank you for the quick updates. We were following Div 4 LaReina. Looking forward to next year. Keep up the great postings.
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Greg Beal, on , said:

While the number of teams included in the power merge has shifted year to year, here's a power merge based on the top 20 overall girls teams:

Great Oak 102
Simi Valley 199
Davis Sr. 208
Saugus 213
Capistrano Valley 217
Clovis North 257
Trabuco Hills 260
Buchanan 264
San Clemente 269
Redondo Union 272
La Costa Canyon 282
Serrano 283
Mira Costa 285
St. Francis 289
Yucaipa 294
Campolindo 313
Northwood 316
Vista Murrieta 337
Arroyo Grande 343
Bella Vista 363



Interesting, we got different numbers (although I used 16, but it's a pretty significant difference - I have Davis Senior and Trabuco Hills tied for 3rd/4th instead of being separated by 52 points with three teams in between them).



The scores I came up with:

Girls =
  • 87 Great Oak (D1#1)
  • 175 Simi Valley (D2#1)
  • 181 Davis Senior (D1#2)
  • 181 Trabuco Hills (D1#3)
  • 186 Saugus (D2#2)
  • 187 Capistrano Valley (D1#4)
  • 221 Clovis North (D1#5)
  • 226 Buchanan (D1#6)
  • 231 San Clemente (D1#7)
  • 238 Redondo Union (D2#3)
  • 244 Serrano (D2#6)
  • 244 St. Francis-Sac (D1#9)
  • 246 Mira Costa (D2#5)
  • 248 La Costa Canyon (D2#4)
  • 255 Yucaipa (D1#8)
  • 278 Campolindo (D3#1)


Boys =
  • 72 Arcadia (D1#1)
  • 110 Madera South (D1#2)
  • 167 Dana Hills (D1#3)
  • 179 Warren (D1#4)
  • 182 Saugus (D2#1)
  • 183 Jurupa Hills (D3#1)
  • 194 Loyola (D1#5)
  • 198 Brea Olinda (D3#2)
  • 227 Westlake (D2#2)
  • 248 Bellarmine (D1#6)
  • 249 Canyon-Anaheim (D2#4)
  • 252 Dos Pueblos (D2#3)
  • 253 Palos Verdes (D3#3)
  • 264 De La Salle (D1#7)
  • 270 Redondo Union (D2#5)
  • 274 Clovis North (D1#8)
Greg Beal
While the number of teams included in the power merge has shifted year to year, here's a power merge based on the top 20 overall girls teams:

Great Oak 102
Simi Valley 199
Davis Sr. 208
Saugus 213
Capistrano Valley 217
Clovis North 257
Trabuco Hills 260
Buchanan 264
San Clemente 269
Redondo Union 272
La Costa Canyon 282
Serrano 283
Mira Costa 285
St. Francis 289
Yucaipa 294
Campolindo 313
Northwood 316
Vista Murrieta 337
Arroyo Grande 343
Bella Vista 363
Scott Joerger
Check our state meet page here http://tinyurl.com/p4zhnef for meet highlights, interviews, race videos, and photos throughout the weekend.
Scott Joerger
Thanks again to RecordTiming.com @rtspt for providing live results throughout the day!
Scott Joerger
D5 Boys
1 Alan Yoho 15:11
2 Trevor Reinhart 15:25
3 Jack Van Scoter 15:41
4 Gabe Arias-Sheride 15:42
5 James Kinney 15:43
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MatthewXCoutry, on , said:

So what was Munoz's result then. The pdfs still list him as 14:19, which is insane if someone could come off the radar and run that time (but I suspect it isn't accurate, hope it is though). I assume garfield isn't the LACS garfield, which section is this school in?


We have to assume that this is Pedro Munoz of Garfield LACS that was entered in race 60, but was somehow picked up in error in race 60. Looking at history, he ran 20:12 at Clovis and 12:28 at Fastback, which makes it clear this isn't some new star on the scene.

We are going to adjust the RS and TFX results to show him 7 minutes slower in race 59, (7 minutes being the difference in scheduled start times), so 22:19.

Mt. Sac does the PDFs and we have no control of those, but hopefully they will be updated as well.
Chris Nickinson
Instagram was a slammed with pics from the meet. Here's a few of the best I saw.



Lots of pics tagged with #mtsac #mtsacxc #myxc #runnerspace #xc
MatthewXCoutry
So what was Munoz's result then. The pdfs still list him as 14:19, which is insane if someone could come off the radar and run that time (but I suspect it isn't accurate, hope it is though). I assume garfield isn't the LACS garfield, which section is this school in?
Scott Joerger

cerutty fan, on , said:

Pedro Munoz was in race 59, misplaced into results of race 60.

Is Fahy OK? He looked to be in a really bad spot at the finish.

The results are all off by a few seconds it seems, but some more than others. Is the device recording the chip the square object that is attached to the top of that 3 foot high black pole about 10 feet beyond the finish line? Or is it a mat that is beyond the line and not in sight? http://www.dyestatca...video_id=100385 Guys who continue jogging through the finish have "official" times that are roughly 2 seconds slower than the clock time when they go through the finish. Guys like Jacob Ogden, who then walk immediately after the finish line, are credited with a time about 4 seconds slower than the clock time. In fact, in Ogden's example, he comes in at 15:12, gets credited with a 15:16, and then Warren's Barragan comes in at 15:13 and jogs past Ogden and is credited with a 15:15 ahead of Ogden. I would be interested to see if they had to adjust Fahy's chip time since he fell at the finish line.

Yes I was thinking the same thing. I'm not certain what the point of the matt is, since the chips were attached to the bibs, not the shoes. I think this was throwing times off for many runners, and that's unfortunate.
cerutty fan

Bsarno1, on , said:

Enjoyed watching Mt. SAC.......the views of the hill climbing conveyed how tough the course is. What other courses offer such a true XC trust for the preps? Van Courtlland has its ups and downs but length is shorter although it can configure longer. Saw NCAAs there about 40 years ago...UTEP won.

Not sure how to rate Haney's performance. Somewhere it was said he had tired leg, which most runners will confirm does happen...climbing those hills probably did not help.
Bottom line is that there is a lot of depth in the California among the boys. Arcadia has super team and proved its depth.
Among the girls, Baxter distanced the Calif. girls. So who is really no. 2? Poor Maxwell, she has had four years of this!


Haney's performance is a throw away, or at the very most points to him not doing well on very steep hills that are rarely tackled in XC anyway. He's been traveling a lot, to colleges and invitationals, so you just can't read into this effort today. De La Rosa must have been sick; you can't lose that much fitness in such a short span.

As for telling De La Rosa and Rocha apart on the fly, I'm pretty sure Rocha's legs are twice the size of De La Rosa's.

I rescored the D3 Sweeps race for boys and girls and there were significant changes in both fields based on the video on this site.

Girls D3 Sweepstakes
Apologies if I messed any of this up. La Canada jumps up to 8th, Del Norte falls to 11th.


01. 072 - Northwood - 1, 3, 18, 20, 30, 43, 50
02. 103 - Bishop O'Dowd - 7, 9, 12, 35, 40, 77
03. 123 - Esperanza - 15, 22, 23, 26, 37, 48, 67
04. 127 - Bonita - 17, 19, 24, 28, 36, 79, 100
05. 169 - Los Altos - 5, 27, 42, 46, 49, 59
06. 177 - Cathedral Catholic - 11, 13, 32, 57, 64
07. 186 - Del Oro - 6, 38, 39, 41, 62, 99
08. 206 - La Canada - 2, 14, 56, 66, 68. 82, 93
09. 208 - Redwood - 8, 44, 45, 53, 58, 85
10. 211 - Brea Olinda - 10, 33, 34, 61, 73, 86, 90
11. 266 - Del Norte - 21, 47, 55, 71, 72, 78
12. 267 - SLO - 16, 31, 52, 81, 87, 89, 98
13. 284 - Irvine - 29, 51, 60, 69, 75, 76, 83
14. 335 - Gahr - 25, 65, 74, 80, 91, 95, 101
15. 348 - Azusa - 4, 70, 88, 92, 94, 96, 103
16. 400 - Hoover - 54, 63, 84, 97, 102, 104


Boys D3 Sweeps

Based on the video, this is the scoring I get.

This would move El Modena from 11th to 5th. Bonita goes from 12th to 6th.

01. 062 - Brea - 1, 10, 11, 14, 26, 44, 56
02. 125 - Jurupa Hills - 5, 20, 29, 33, 38, 71, 101
03. 147 - Rubidoux - 4, 31, 32, 34, 46, 49, 84
04. 198 - SJB - 12, 22, 42, 45, 77, 106, 115
05. 222 - El Modena - 3, 36, 48, 57, 78, 116
06. 229 - Bonita - 7, 35, 37, 55, 95, 99, 120
07. 235 - San Marcos - 18, 28, 51, 68, 70, 131, 138
08. 238 - Lutheran - 23, 24, 54, 63, 74, 111, 129
09. 244 - Cathedral - 8, 16, 40, 89, 91, 92, 104
10. 267 - Indio - 2, 30, 69, 76, 90, 127, 132
11. 268 - Del Norte - 27, 41, 58, 61, 81, 88, 102
12. 284 - University City - 17, 59, 62, 67, 79, 80, 93
13. 330 - Bishop O'Dowd - 13, 15, 87, 107, 108, 109
14. 356 - Los Altos - 50, 64, 73, 83, 86, 98, 112
15. 366 - SLO - 6, 39, 52, 133, 136, 144
16. 396 - Acalanes - 9, 66, 85, 113, 123, 135, 147
17. 427 - Damien - 25, 43, 103, 117, 139, 146, 149
18. 432 - South Pas - 19, 60, 114, 118, 121, 126, 145
19. 435 - Northwood - 53, 82, 94, 96, 110, 124
20. 477 - Esperanza - 72, 75, 100, 105, 125, 143
21. 485 - Yucca Valley - 21, 65, 128, 134, 137, 141, 142
22. 515 - Deer Valley - 47, 97, 119, 122, 130, 140, 148

Redwood had one guy in 78th, which I didn't add to the score.
Greg Beal

Bsarno1, on , said:

Among the girls, Baxter distanced the Calif. girls. So who is really no. 2?


It looks as if #2 is Samantha Ortega of Saugus who ran 16:47, winning by just over a minute, near the end of Saturday's racing.

Too bad the crack Mountievision crew did not show a single moment of the Girls D2 Subsweeps race, concentrating instead on an earlier girls varsity race and then on a boys JV race.
Scott Joerger

Scott Joerger, on , said:

Here comes De La Rosa!!

My apologies for identifying Arcadia's Philip Rocha as Estevan De La Rosa. In my defense, De La Rosa cut his hair like Rocha's which makes it much harder to tell them apart in the heat of a race!
Bsarno1
Enjoyed watching Mt. SAC.......the views of the hill climbing conveyed how tough the course is. What other courses offer such a true XC trust for the preps? Van Courtlland has its ups and downs but length is shorter although it can configure longer. Saw NCAAs there about 40 years ago...UTEP won.

Not sure how to rate Haney's performance. Somewhere it was said he had tired leg, which most runners will confirm does happen...climbing those hills probably did not help.
Bottom line is that there is a lot of depth in the California among the boys. Arcadia has super team and proved its depth.
Among the girls, Baxter distanced the Calif. girls. So who is really no. 2? Poor Maxwell, she has had four years of this!
cerutty fan
Pedro Munoz was in race 59, misplaced into results of race 60.

Is Fahy OK? He looked to be in a really bad spot at the finish.

The results are all off by a few seconds it seems, but some more than others. Is the device recording the chip the square object that is attached to the top of that 3 foot high black pole about 10 feet beyond the finish line? Or is it a mat that is beyond the line and not in sight? http://www.dyestatca...video_id=100385 Guys who continue jogging through the finish have "official" times that are roughly 2 seconds slower than the clock time when they go through the finish. Guys like Jacob Ogden, who then walk immediately after the finish line, are credited with a time about 4 seconds slower than the clock time. In fact, in Ogden's example, he comes in at 15:12, gets credited with a 15:16, and then Warren's Barragan comes in at 15:13 and jogs past Ogden and is credited with a 15:15 ahead of Ogden. I would be interested to see if they had to adjust Fahy's chip time since he fell at the finish line.
MatthewXCountry
Wow Peter Munoz of Garfield wins Varsity Boys (race 60) in 14:19! Where did that come from? Is this a mistake? Isn't that a course record?
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