Thoughts on some boys teams on the SW Watchlist:
Albuquerque Academy, NM. The 14th place Southwest finisher Albuquerque Academy returns 6 of their top 7. They are led by state 3200 champion Jordan Lesnansee and are a solid mix of seniors and underclassmen. Running in the 2nd largest class in their New Mexico, we are picking them to be the fastest team in the state.
Lone Peak, UT. Last years 8th place finishers in the SW look to move up from that place returning 6 of 7. 3 of those 7 were 9th graders last year.
Desert Vista, AZ. The defending large class Arizona state champions return 3 of their top 4 and 4 of their top 7. After a great spring with several sub 10 3200 runners, they are proof of the depth of this region.
Rio Rancho, NM. The two time defending New Mexico large class state champion is the team to beat again this year in their class. They did not have a great showing at the Nike SW regional last year, but with 6 of the top 7 returning, this could be the year they take the next step.
Ogden, UT. It is tough to catch a break this year in Utah. Ogden returns 5 of their top 7 runners including a very solid top two in Alek Parsons and Garrett Barton, yet we predict it will be difficult for them to match their 6th place SW regional finish from last year.
Mountain View, Mesa, AZ. The 2nd place Arizona State XC finishers have the best shot in the state to knock off Desert Vista. The Toros return 5 of their top 6 runners.
McQueen, NV. The returning large class champion is the team to beat once again in Nevada. However, with the loss of their top two runners, it will be difficult to improve on their 9th place finish in the Southwest Region from last year. .

Isn't Oregon in the NW region for NXN?

I think you are doing her a disservice with the article's headline and that photo, then contradicting it by stating, "Efraimson isn't thinking about that."

She puts it best: "I just want to go into this race, hopefully Sunday, and just finish the race with no regrets, saying that I ran hard, I ran as fast as I could," Efraimson concluded.

No need to put more pressure on her than she's putting on herself.

The article says that she got the bronze medal last year but later it says that "it would be historic: no American woman has ever won a medal at an IAAF World Junior Championships." Am I missing something?

Does anyone know if a breakdown by grade level is available?

SteveU, on , said:

Only including the regional years (since it could be argued that pre-2007 every team was at-large), there have been four that finished higher and two more that finished fifth.

#3 Saratoga Springs NY girls 2007
#4 East Aurora NY girls 2012
#4 Loyola Academy IL boys 2009
#4 Hanover NH girls 2007
#5 Palatine IL boys 2011
#5 Queensbury NY girls 2008

SteveU, on , said:

Didn't Palatine boys finish 5th in 2011? (Right in front of us, DOH!)

How many at-large teams have finished better than Monarch, if any?

How the double-qualified schools fared:

Fayetteville-Manlius: Girls 2nd, Boys 4th

Carmel: Girls 4th, Boys 5th

Wayzata: Girls 1st, Boys 15th

Davis UT: Girls 3rd, Boys 17th

Southlake Carroll: Boys 14th, Girls 17th

Interesting that the top four girls team in the country this year come from schools where the boys also qualified for NXN.

I remember noticing a few minutes into the race, when the girls passed by the grandstand the first time, that Unionville (aka Kennett) was very far back. I'm not surprised to see that they were 17th at the first split. After a rough start they did a pretty good job clawing back up to 7th.

Here's the girls breakdown, first by weighted average time and also including ROUGH score (score is questionable, as there are many ties that aren't broken)

Split 1 (~750-800m):

• Fayetteville-Manlius NY 2:37.90 (~71 points)
  
• Pennsbury PA 2:41.44 (~148 points)
  
• Carmel IN 2:42.27 (~156 points)
  
• Davis UT 2:42.68 (~173 points)
  
• Fort Collins CO 2:42.83 (~182 points)
  
• Wayzata MN 2:43.24 (~208 points)
  
• Monarch CO 2:43.72 (~213 points)
  
• Coe-Brown NH 2:44.05 (??? points)
  
• Great Oak CA 2:44.12 (~233 points)
  
• Assumption KY 2:44.13 (~226 points)
  
• Saratoga NY 2:44.40 (~240 points)
  
• Simi Valley CA 2:46.21 (~321 points)
  
• Bozeman MT 2:46.62 (~330 points)
  
• Davis CA 2:47.09 (~351 points)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 2:48.42 (~376 points)
  
• New Braunfels TX 2:48.66 (~394 points)
  
• Unionville PA 2:48.82 (~415 points)
  
• East Ridge MN 2:49.12 (??? points)
  
• Naperville North IL 2:49.93 (~497 points)
  
• The Woodlands TX 2:51.28 (~512 points)
  
• Bellarmine Prep WA 2:51.48 (~547 points)
  
• Blacksburg VA 2:52.01 (~548 points)

Note: Coe-Brown NH and East Ridge MN both had runners not register at this split, so they might have been better than this shows


Split 2 (~1800-1850m)

• Fayetteville-Manlius NY 6:37.02 (~77)
  
• Wayzata MN 6:42.91 (~141)
  
• Davis UT 6:45.07 (~165)
  
• Fort Collins CO 6:45.50 (~199)
  
• Carmel IN 6:46.30 (~193)
  
• Pennsbury PA 6:47.53 (~202)
  
• Monarch CO 6:48.18 (~227)
  
• Great Oak CA 6:50.12 (~242)
  
• Davis CA 6:51.31 (~276)
  
• Unionville PA 6:51.46 (~270)
  
• Simi Valley CA 6:51.60 (~290)
  
• Saratoga NY 6:52.05 (~295)
  
• Bozeman MT 6:53.47 (~304)
  
• Assumption KY 6:56.27 (~366)
  
• New Braunfels TX 6:56.64 (~348)
  
• Naperville North IL 6:57.07 (~390)
  
• Coe-Brown NH 6:58.40 (~381)
  
• East Ridge MN 7:01.08 (~447)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 7:01.42 (~392)
  
• The Woodlands TX 7:04.30 (~499)
  
• Blacksburg VA 7:04.31 (~497)
  
• Bellarmine Prep WA 7:05.73 (~547)

Big movers: Unionville PA, Naperville North IL, Davis CA, Blacksburg VA, Wayzata MN, New Braunfels TX, Simi Valley CA, The Woodlands TX


Split 3 (~2900-3000m)

• Fayetteville-Manlius NY 10:47.35 (~101)
  
• Wayzata MN 10:52.42 (~127)
  
• Davis UT 10:57.97 (~165)
  
• Carmel IN 10:58.21 (~185)
  
• Fort Collins CO 11:00.46 (~216)
  
• Unionville PA 11:00.46 (~203)
  
• Monarch CO 11:02.18 (~219)
  
• Davis CA 11:05.06 (~262)
  
• Pennsbury PA 11:05.85 (~240)
  
• Simi Valley CA 11:06.42 (~286)
  
• Great Oak CA 11:07.62 (~267)
  
• Bozeman MT 11:10.87 (~290)
  
• Saratoga NY 11:13.07 (~336)
  
• Naperville North IL 11:13.76 (~362)
  
• New Braunfels TX 11:16.83 (~347)
  
• Assumption KY 11:17.42 (~380)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 11:24.75 (~390)
  
• Coe-Brown NH 11:26.14 (~412)
  
• East Ridge MN 11:26.16 (~436)
  
• Blacksburg VA 11:27.65 (~476)
  
• The Woodlands TX 11:27.98 (~457)
  
• Bellarmine Prep WA 11:31.03 (~535)

Big movers: Unionville PA, Naperville North IL


Split 4 (~4000m)

• Fayetteville-Manlius NY 14:54.52 (~111)
  
• Wayzata MN 14:58.22 (~118)
  
• Davis UT 15:06.93 (~162)
  
• Unionville PA 15:07.87 (~199)
  
• Carmel IN 15:08.79 (~188)
  
• Fort Collins CO 15:11.17 (~223)
  
• Monarch CO 15:13.71 (~215)
  
• Simi Valley CA 15:17.12 (~280)
  
• Davis CA 15:17.74 (~256)
  
• Pennsbury PA 15:21.00 (~269)
  
• Great Oak CA 15:21.80 (~271)
  
• Bozeman MT 15:23.73 (~285)
  
• Naperville North IL 15:27.18 (~335)
  
• Saratoga NY 15:30.03 (~354)
  
• New Braunfels TX 15:33.26 (~340)
  
• Assumption KY 15:36.39 (~379)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 15:45.14 (~394)
  
• Blacksburg VA 15:46.72 (~457)
  
• East Ridge MN 15:47.21 (~434)
  
• The Woodlands TX 15:48.93 (~444)
  
• Coe-Brown NH 15:50.80 (~430)
  
• Bellarmine Prep WA 15:54.27 (~528)

Big movers: none (Unionville PA again made the biggest move, but it wasn't much different from where they were at the last split compared to the rest of the field)


Split 5 (5026m) -- sorted by score

• 108 Wayzata MN 18:34.19
  
• 120 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 18:34.35
  
• 157 Davis UT 18:44.78
  
• 182 Carmel IN 18:48.56
  
• 211 Monarch CO 18:53.92
  
• 212 Fort Collins CO 18:51.87
  
• 214 Unionville PA 18:53.73
  
• 276 Great Oak CA 19:08.09
  
• 277 Simi Valley CA 19:00.61
  
• 278 Bozeman MT 19:08.02
  
• 279 Pennsbury PA 19:07.25
  
• 282 Davis CA 19:05.14
  
• 336 Naperville North IL 19:13.42
  
• 352 New Braunfels TX 19:23.96
  
• 373 Saratoga NY 19:20.03
  
• 376 Assumption KY 19:24.65
  
• 398 Southlake Carroll TX 19:37.04
  
• 426 Coe-Brown NH 19:44.46
  
• 430 East Ridge MN 19:37.02
  
• 433 The Woodlands TX 19:38.89
  
• 451 Blacksburg VA 19:39.07
  
• 521 Bellarmine Prep WA 19:48.84

Big movers: none (Davis UT made the biggest move, but it wasn't much different from where they were at the last split compared to the rest of the field)


Thoughts:
-Wayzata made their big move between the first and second split, and there was only gradual improvement thereafter.
-Fayetteville-Manlius got off to a big start as usual, and as usual were gradually fading till the end.
-Davis UT only made one decent sized move, which was in the last kilometer, so they ran an extremely evenly paced race (compared to the field).
-Unionville was the only team to make big moves for consecutive splits (much like Edina for the boys), though they did lose ground in the final kilometer.
-Monarch and Fort Collins, like Davis, ran a very even race with their biggest move (which wasn't that much compared to the rest of the field) in the final kilometer. Interesting that all three SW teams ran the same way.
-Coe-Brown, like Fayetteville-Manlius, got off to a good start and faded throughout. Their drop-off was bigger, especially in the first half of the race, however.
-Overall, there wasn't a whole lot of big movement throughout the race after the second split.

dave frank, on , said:

Team scores at splits aren't posted anywhere (that I know of).

Doug linked to the boys splits, and here are the girls: http://www.rtspt.com...3/Girls_Spl.htm




I thought about including a race progression analysis as well, but figured that I had included enough data (it was around 3000 words already) for one story.

The first split won't yield an accurate comparison for ALL teams, as there were 2-3 teams in both races that were missing a runner (the mat didn't pick up the timing chip for whatever reason), though all the other splits included everyone.

Here's the boys breakdown, first by weighted average time and also including ROUGH score (score is questionable, as there are many ties that aren't broken)

Split 1 (~750-800m):

• CBA NJ 2:17.04 (~111 points)
  
• Gig Harbor WA 2:17.56 (~150 points)
  
• Northport NY 2:17.70 (~152 points)
  
• FM NY 2:17.83 (~162 points)
  
• WC Henderson PA 2:18.59 (??? points)
  
• Dana Hills CA 2:19.12 (??? points)
  
• Brentwood TN 2:19.20 (~252 points)
  
• North Central WA 2:19.34 (~247 points)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 2:19.79 (~272 points)
  
• Severna Park MD 2:19.82 (~281 points)
  
• Liverpool NY 2:20.01 (~294 points)
  
• American Fork UT 2:20.03 (~292 points)
  
• Lewisville Hebron TX 2:20.09 (~304 points)
  
• Central Catholic OR 2:20.28 (~323 points)
  
• St. Xavier OH 2:20.49 (~309 points)
  
• Arcadia CA 2:20.79 (~336 points)
  
• Hinsdale Central IL 2:2087 (~340 points)
  
• Davis UT 2:20.93 (??? points)
  
• Carmel IN 2:21.16 (~378 points)
  
• Wayzata MN 2:21.70 (~394 points)
  
• Madera South CA 2:22.54 (~470 points)
  
• Edina MN 2:24.74 (~619 points)

Note: WC Henderson, Dana Hills and Davis all had runners not register at this split, so they might have been better than this shows


Split 2 (~1800-1850m)

• CBA NJ 5:42.54 (~122)
  
• Gig Harbor WA 5:43.26 (~135)
  
• Brentwood TN 5:43.89 (~161)
  
• Fayetteville-Manlius NY 5:45.98 (~192)
  
• WC Henderson PA 5:48.19 (~208)
  
• North Central WA 5:48.99 (~261)
  
• St. Xavier OH 5:49.06 (~261)
  
• Carmel IN 5:49.64 (~258)
  
• Severna Park MD 5:50.33 (~276)
  
• Northport NY 5:50.35 (~286)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 5:50.50 (~293)
  
• Arcadia CA 5:51.13 (~283)
  
• American Fork UT 5:51.93 (~319)
  
• Dana Hills CA 5:52.32 (~330)
  
• Davis UT 5:52.97 (~345)
  
• Liverpool NY 5:53.06 (~340)
  
• Central Catholic OR 5:53.32 (~357)
  
• Lewisville Hebron TX 5:53.49 (~352)
  
• Wayzata MN 5:54.40 (~384)
  
• Madera South CA 5:54.49 (~397)
  
• Edina MN 5:55.79 (~427)
  
• Hinsdale Central IL 5:57.15 (~469)

Big movers: Edina MN, Brentwood TN, Carmel IN, St. Xavier OH, Madera South CA


Split 3 (~2900-3000m)

• Gig Harbor WA 9:13.06 (~126)
  
• CBA NJ 9:14.42 (~128)
  
• Brentwood TN 9:15.30 (~172)
  
• Fayetteville-Manlius NY 9:17.52 (~161)
  
• North Central WA 9:23.04 (~237)
  
• Carmel IN 9:24.91 (~231)
  
• St. Xavier OH 9:26.46 (~270)
  
• Arcadia CA 9:26.52 (~252)
  
• American Fork UT 9:26.87 (~271)
  
• WC Henderson PA 9:27.33 (~267)
  
• Northport NY 9:28.27 (~304)
  
• Severna Park MD 9:28.92 (~294)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 9:30.34 (~315)
  
• Edina MN 9:30.71 (~311)
  
• Wayzata MN 9:32.24 (~339)
  
• Davis UT 9:32.97 (~346)
  
• Liverpool NY 9:33.15 (~347)
  
• Madera South CA 9:34.42 (~380)
  
• Central Catholic OR 9:34.84 (~375)
  
• Lewisville Hebron TX 9:34.85 (~379)
  
• Dana Hills CA 9:35.33 (~375)
  
• Hinsdale Central IL 9:40.35 (~470)

Big movers: Edina MN, American Fork UT, Gig Harbor WA, Fayetteville-Manlius NY


Split 4 (~4000m)

• Gig Harbor WA 12:37.22 (~119)
  
• Brentwood TN 12:41.84 (~171)
  
• CBA NJ 12:43.54 (~134)
  
• Fayetteville-Manlius NY 12:47.69 (~177)
  
• North Central WA 12:52.42 (~230)
  
• Carmel IN 12:55.05 (~221)
  
• American Fork UT 12:56.70 (~255)
  
• St. Xavier OH 12:58.44 (~272)
  
• Arcadia CA 12:58.55 (~260)
  
• Edina MN 13:00.08 (~257)
  
• Northport NY 13:01.67 (~296)
  
• Severna Park MD 13:03.84 (~299)
  
• WC Henderson PA 13:04.58 (~320)
  
• Southlake Carroll TX 13:05.69 (~324)
  
• Wayzata MN 13:06.28 (~330)
  
• Madera South CA 13:07.54 (~350)
  
• Davis UT 13:08.15 (~345)
  
• Central Catholic OR 13:09.97 (~356)
  
• Liverpool NY 13:10.23 (~372)
  
• Dana Hills CA 13:11.73 (~371)
  
• Lewisville Hebron TX 13:11.90 (~404)
  
• Hinsdale Central IL 13:19.84 (~473)

Big movers: Edina MN


Split 5 (5026m) -- sorted by score

• 111 Gig Harbor WA 15:38.92
  
• 139 CBA NJ 15:51.98
  
• 174 Brentwood TN 15:52.00
  
• 216 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 16:02.87
  
• 225 Carmel IN 16:05.52
  
• 228 St. Xavier OH 16:04.18
  
• 230 American Fork UT 16:05.10
  
• 231 North Central WA 16:00.15
  
• 255 Arcadia CA 16:09.52
  
• 263 Edina MN 16:11.50
  
• 299 Northport NY 16:14.87
  
• 301 WC Henderson PA 16:16.07
  
• 303 Severna Park MD 16:16.97
  
• 308 Southlake Carroll TX 16:18.07
  
• 322 Wayzata MN 16:20.08
  
• 325 Madera South CA 16:18.22
  
• 344 Davis UT 16:20.40
  
• 347 Dana Hills CA 16:23.42
  
• 375 Central Catholic OR 16:27.22
  
• 401 Liverpool NY 16:27.55
  
• 415 Lewisville Hebron TX 16:27.22
  
• 458 Hinsdale Central IL 16:36.12

Big movers: St. Xavier OH


Thoughts:
-Gig Harbor made their big move between the second and third splits, and while didn't make a huge jump after that they continued to build on their lead at a pretty good pace.
-CBA started off well and pretty much stayed at that level, not moving up or down too much in the pack.
-Brentwood made a huge move between the first and second split, and pretty much held ground thereafter.
-Hinsdale, Dana Hills and Northport had the biggest time gain (or loss? depending on how you look at it) between the first and second splits, meaning they were probably effected the most by the pile-up.

There is this, but it's not that easy to make sense of it.

It would be helpful if it were sorted by teams.

http://www.rtspt.com...13/Boys_Spl.htm

In previous years the 1km splits were available as a spreadsheet... Anyone know if they are available this year?

I'm more interested in the places at each kilo in terms of how athletes moved up (or back) as the race progressed...

thanks,

Dave Frank